We Love That For You

Cameron:
Adrian Black. Cameron Arduguer.

Adrian:
My second ick is Cameron's hat.

Cameron:
But I'll digress. We love that for you. Let's kind of get right into it. You want to tell everyone how we met?

Adrian:
Yeah, it's a fun story. We essentially met through a mutual friend, technically. Regardless, I had grills in my mouth at the time. Third time wearing braces. Fun fact.

Cameron:
Train tracks, huh?

Adrian:
But we met and we went through a mutual friend and the next day we invited you to come to Palm Springs. Oh, yeah. And you came, which is kind of crazy. And ever since then, we've been friends. Granted, some, you know, unique predicaments did occur in Palm Springs, but that is for a later episode.

Cameron:
Yeah, that was definitely a crazy time in Palm Springs. We had a lot of fun. And since then, we've taken a lot of different trips as well.

Adrian:
I lost some friendships because of it, but here we are. A couple.

Cameron:
Why did you lose some friendships? Please explain. Please allow me. Why did we lose some friendships? What happened?

Adrian:
I think, you know, we're going to save that for a later episode, Cam. But can we share with the audience and the viewers what we're going to be talking about this season?

Cameron:
Sexuality, for sure.

Adrian:
Oh, for sure. Oh, my God. OK, I have a question for you, actually. Yeah, of course. If I'm a guy and I date guys, what am I? Gay. If I'm a girl that dates girls, what am I? Gay, right? Lesbian. Uh-huh. Yeah. And then if I'm a girl that dates guys only, what am I? Straight. What if I'm a guy who dates trans women? What am I?

Cameron:
Yeah, gay for sure. 100%.

Adrian:
You're not gay. You're not. No. OK. OK. See, this is the conversation that we have.

Cameron:
Yeah, but how is that not gay? That makes no sense.

Adrian:
We're gonna have a speaker really go into this. Obviously, this is a realm that I'm not fully familiar with myself, but I don't think it's gay.

Cameron:
I think it's... Like honestly for me, if I were to go sleep with somebody that's a girl but has a penis and I would like... Suck her dick or his dick or however you want to pronounce it. Of course, that would make me gay.

Adrian:
But what about the aesthetic? Because like, they're not attracted. Like, so like I met one through a mutual friend that's going to be upcoming. And, you know, this is your friend, too. Yeah. But, you know, like the guys that she'd be pulling, like, they're not attracted to me or you. They're attracted to the feminine aesthetic. Regardless of anatomy.

Cameron:
Yeah, and I understand that I love her to death She's the most amazing but she's one of my best friends in life But in my eyes and I think some some of my friends that are straight. I think they would classify that as gay So it might be are they okay just cuz they're your friends.

Adrian:
Are they the most educated? Population to actually have a conversation on this does I want to learn and actually be educated

Cameron:
Yeah, not just I'd believe that there's there's 100% a lot of ignorance within there Yeah, and I don't think they're the most qualified to speak on it, but I think the overall perception of that Yeah that they would think something like that is gay.

Adrian:
Yeah, so join us and you know one of our episodes for deep diving into Sexuality and what it means to date trans women trans men anything in between?

Cameron:
Yeah, I love that, too, because, you know, she lives her best life. She loves to party and have fun with us. And we have the best time ever when we go out. We travel together. We do everything. We do a lot. I mean, she can't come to Dubai with us.

Adrian:
But we don't love that for her just because of the laws that prevent her from going into certain countries with certain laws. That's the gist of it. But why can you go?

Cameron:
So I'm... Explain it. Come on.

Adrian:
Why didn't you join me in Dubai on that trip? It's not that I can't go to Dubai, which I've been to Dubai multiple times. I love Dubai. I was just there like what this past year. You just can't talk about your sexual orientation. And for me, I just present as a male. I'm cisgendered male, which means I'm born at birth as a man. And I've just associated and identify as a man henceforth. But as someone that identify that's born male, then transitions into female.

Cameron:
But you can't go there and be yourself.

Adrian:
I can go there. I mean, there's a lot of gays. Gays are everywhere. What do you mean?

Cameron:
No, they're everywhere 100%, but you can't like, you can't go around walking hands with another man. You can't go out parties kissing other men. You can't just like, act like a normal straight couple would, right? Yeah, but not, like straight people don't even do that. They do. If you go to the five hotel, if you go to any of the pool parties or anything like that, of course, you know, you see straight people doing whatever.

Adrian:
I mean, that's a bigger, I think that's a definitely a bigger conversation, which we should have at some point. But the reality is, I mean, it's straight up homophobia. Cameron's right at the end of the day. But I mean, period. Is it really like it's like, yeah, it's straight up homophobia. It's straight up like it's based on whatever their social cultures are. And I'm not going to go into their country and all of a sudden expect them to, you know, like Accommodate me just because of this. Yeah, it should Technically because I exist and people like me exist even in within their own societies So another topic that we're gonna think and talking about is skin.

Cameron:
Oh Skin is a big one. You know, you remember your car ride in New York with Sasha. Oh my god Colorism is crazy.

Adrian:
Where are you everywhere in the world?

Cameron:
Honestly, we started beating that chest So yeah, that was was that was that one of the first trips we took?

Adrian:
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was New York. So yeah, you remember Sasha.

Cameron:
So yeah, so we're, I was on a trip. I came, I think I came straight from Columbia to New York. Adrian met me, told me to meet him in New York. We were at Soul House in New York, Dumbo House to be exact. Dumbo, Berkeley. And we're all, you know, we all had a couple of drinks in us and we're having fun. And we're in a Uber XL.

Adrian:
Wait, wait, wait, preface this really quick. You made out with Sasha before. You went in and started beating your chest. Did I? I think the exact line. And I actually got this quote today.

Cameron:
I didn't see anything.

Adrian:
I got this quote today, guys.

Cameron:
Yeah, I thought it was crazy because I'm black, you know, my dad is dark-skinned black. My mom is white and You know, she's a dark-skinned girl, but she's the most beautiful girl ever. She's a model for Vogue does this and there's a but there's a but She's the most beautiful. Yeah, you're right. You're right. There's a but but for me, she's the most beautiful girl ever like I have no I don't I don't see any I don't I don't see that so it's like

Adrian:
But I think what it comes down to is like historically dark skin is not associated with beauty. So therefore we're going to take it and deep dive into this and talk about what sexuality, race, color, gender has to do with all of this. Because Sasha is stunning. She's like a model straight up. She is a model. Beautiful. And she gets she gets access to a lot of these places where typical dark skinned girls that don't look like her wouldn't be able to access. She gets it because she looks like that. Hundred percent true. And that's the conversation. Hundred percent true. And, you know, like not to say like your life hasn't been difficult, but, you know, you're racially ambiguous.

Cameron:
Yeah, I'm just I definitely my problems definitely do not compare to hers when what she's had to experience, you know But that also knowing that that doesn't take away from my experience or your experience either Yeah, but she doesn't know your experience but you can resonate it all the thighs with her. Yeah, definitely I can definitely empathize with her like Yeah, it's not about winning it's just a matter of fact I Yeah, so colorism is definitely like a big topic that we want to talk about. I think, I think that's so important and us because it comes into every aspect, especially for black people, you know, and yeah, especially for black people or any minority, you know, I have friends that are, you know, very light skin Latino Latino, that get that don't fit in the Latino culture. Yeah, yeah, one of my best friends, David, he has blue eyes.

SPEAKER_00:
He looks white, but he's, he's Latino. He speaks Spanish. They're real.

Cameron:
They're real. I think so. Yeah, they're real. And, you know, he doesn't fit into any culture either. It's kind of like me. I'm half white, half black. I don't fit in the white world. I don't fit into the African world either.

Adrian:
Oh, for sure. Well, that's a whole nother connotation. That's a whole nother conversation, just simply because your existence as a mixed race person is so difficult because you literally are half half. Yeah. And you don't belong in each. And you're that thought is reinforced within the people around you.

Cameron:
Yeah, I think another topic we want to go into eventually is God and religion religion is huge That's a that's a huge topic that we want to go into Well, okay, you're an atheist.

Adrian:
Mm-hmm I'm spiritual spiritual ish more spiritual.

Cameron:
I consider myself Muslim. In a way. Yeah. You do a lot of non-Muslim things. I don't know what you're talking about.

Adrian:
I don't eat pork. But for the record, I don't eat pork. And I love that for me. But yeah, I think there has to be something, right?

Cameron:
You know, in the club, taking shots out of the bottle. Out of a classical bottle in Paris.

Adrian:
I don't remember that. I don't recall that. I don't recall that. I don't even know if I've been to Paris in my lifetime.

Cameron:
So yeah, anyways, we definitely want to get into the God and religion factor.

Adrian:
And the fact is everything we're talking about, it's like we genuinely love that for them. And we love that for our friends with the sexuality conversation with the skin. The fact is, we just want to understand. We love that for you. Help us understand better.

Cameron:
Yeah, and we also definitely want to get into other subjects like fatherhood, you know, especially in black communities. That's going to be a deep one.

Adrian:
But not even just black communities. I have a friend who, you know, has a surrogacy through a different country. It's a gay friend. And I mean, it's just an interesting conversation because like, how much does that cost? Everyone wants to know. Don't you want to know? Like when someone says, oh, I did a gay couple does a surrogacy through like Colombia, India, Ukraine, wherever. I swear to God, the first thing that goes in my mind is like, how much is that, babe? It's a lot. How much? It's a lot. It's a lot. How much? Or a little. I want to know.

Cameron:
I think it depends. I think it depends where you do the burning question. I think it depends where you do it. If you do it in America, it's going to be expensive here. But I think if you do it in other countries, it won't definitely knock off a big part of that ticket.

Adrian:
Yeah. Like how bad does it dent your pocket? Yeah. It's like, I love that for you. Just, you know, what's that like? How much?

Cameron:
Yeah, so do you think fatherhood affects people growing up? Oh yeah, you need a father figure. You think so? So what about the people that don't grow up with one? Do you think they are more inclined to push harder in life or do more? Or do you think they end up having more traumas later in life if they don't process to it? Yeah, daddy issues. You think daddy issues are a real thing? I mean, I'm looking at you, but... We love that. So when we go out, we love daddy issues.

Adrian:
I mean, daddy issues, I mean, are... We're the girls out with daddy issues. You know enough. You know enough um, but that's that that conversation itself with the fatherhood is huge in our community the black community the Latin community any brown community that it's historically not been able to have it but also within the queer community where they haven't felt accepted So do you think dating a person with daddy issues is?

Cameron:
You do you think I attract people that have daddy issues because I have daddy issues or is that you definitely attract girls that?

Adrian:
Have daddy issues.

Cameron:
Yeah, but why I don't understand that myself. I always try to dive deep into it, but I can never really I'm gonna I'm gonna save that for a later conversation Definitely not toxic man. I think another thing that we want to dive into is lesbians. What do you believe about lesbians?

Adrian:
Oh my god, they're pioneers Yeah, I mean they know how to build things Like what? I don't know bookshelves and stuff like But I do think... I love that for you. Thank you. I love that for me too. I do actually think lesbians, which is a broader conversation, are the originators of this non-binary conversation. Like, soft studs were the original non-binary bitches out here. Like, right? Like, they always... Like, the girls that were tomboys that turned into lesbians, like, weren't they, like, always kind of, like, non-binary?

Cameron:
I don't know. I don't know that much about it.

Adrian:
You don't know any tomboys back in the day? I do, yeah.

Cameron:
Definitely, definitely. It's funny because I've seen a lot of straight girls get frustrated in their dating lives with guys and then switch and become lesbian.

Adrian:
Oh my god.

Cameron:
This whole late in life lesbian thing. It's crazy. And then they switch back later. Like a couple years later, they always switch back to men.

Adrian:
Her partner of like a decade left her for a man and then had kids really I didn't know that Yeah, I mean they looked alike. They look related but we love that for Which is another conversation. Are they like gays like literally date each other but um, I Yeah, anyways, like this whole late in life lesbian thing, like it's coming to mainstream media, which you've seen. It's literally on reality shows now. What's that lady on the New Housewives of New York, Jenna Lyons? She had a whole husband for a while and now she's a lesbian. There's a rumor that our girl Kyle Richards is a late in life lesbian.

Cameron:
I mean, I'm not too educated about the lesbian topic, so that's where you come in. I'm not a lesbian. Okay, okay. So you're homosexual, right? I don't know what I am. I'm queer. So you're queer, right? So we've gone out numerous times. We've partied and we've had fun. I've seen you date men. And so when we've gone out, I've also seen you hook up with girls before. How do you explain that? I'm queer. So you're queer. I'm queer. So what does that mean for all the people that are listening that don't know exactly what that means? Like if you see someone and you see someone that's queer or they say like, what's the difference between gay and queer?

Adrian:
Gay is exclusively men. Okay. Okay.

Cameron:
Queer is like, you know, so can you, so do you hook up with trans women and men as well?

Adrian:
You know, I haven't gotten there yet in my journey, but Maybe. I'm not opposed to it. I just haven't gotten there in my journey. Okay. Why would you Cam? I wouldn't.

Cameron:
I'm straight. You wouldn't? I'm straight.

Adrian:
What about a trans man? No, I'm straight. But like you're saying you're straight. So like based on your own logic, If a man who hooks up with a trans woman is gay, wouldn't you be, and you're hooking up with a trans man, which she's a woman, like by birth transitioned.

Cameron:
How does that look? I think it's one of those things where if I think or perceive her as a girl. You sure it's not a double standard right now? Yeah, no, if I perceive that she's a she's a woman, then I'll go for it. You know, if there's like if there's someone that I had absolutely no idea about, that's a woman. Yeah, I kind of got fooled because I'm thinking it's a woman, right?

Adrian:
Oh, you feel like, OK, wait, it's like scam.

Cameron:
Yeah, it's kind of like a scam. Definitely. Yeah. But like, I've never done that.

SPEAKER_00:
I've never done that.

Cameron:
But I've witnessed people. I've seen that happen to people where they kind of got scammed. They didn't know until it was like, until they were there in the bedroom. They're about to hook up with someone. They're like, yo, yo, what's up, bro? Holy.

Adrian:
That's deep. I didn't know that like, okay, we're gonna have to have this conversation because this is so that's insane.

Cameron:
Another thing that we want to talk about is baddies. We love baddies around here.

Adrian:
And we love baddies in every gender. Yeah, definitely.

Cameron:
Yeah. So I think that that goes back into the fatherhood thing. We're into the toxicity there.

Adrian:
They parallel, they overlap a little bit just because like, you know, a lot of our friends, the models, you know, lots of daddy issues. You know, but on top of that, it's like you're a model and you're exposed to the most toxic things. Like you have to go to Paris Fashion Week, you have to go here and it looks so glamorized on TV. And then you hear these stories and it's like 19 females like sleeping on each other. And I'm like, what? The thing is like the truth and nature of like, we love baddies is like, we love baddies so much, but their stories and especially the models and the baddies from this industry, like they're so toxic sometimes because of like how society and like the realm that they're in and then how the men that they are around and they're just so like numb to it. So we're going to hear some stories. Yeah. As you know, we love our model friends.

Cameron:
Yeah, we're definitely gonna be discussing a lot of stuff with some of our guests that are big-time models. They've been on Vogue and they're out doing different shoots every single day. They're not just Instagram models, they're real models. So some of the people that I've dated in the past, I really got a deep dive into what they have to go through with model housing, which you kind of went through before. It's crazy. Yeah. It's insane. And you know, imagine like 18 girls living in a four bedroom apartment, you know, all beautiful, all beautiful girls. One on one, they're all beautiful girls. But imagine 18 insecurity, insecure personalities in one.

Adrian:
Because they're all going for the same thing. And they want to be the number one person for that specific.

Cameron:
Exactly. They all and they're all the hottest girl in their high school But when it comes to that when it comes to that you're really not that you're really not that you're not all that You're not that girl, you know, and then the financial aspect of that as well. Oh my god is is crazy They're not just that basically go out there to work for free.

Adrian:
It's crazy And then the majority of the money that they make their agency takes it or something is what I heard yeah, like and I'm like what the and then they don't get paid for like a month and a half later or something and

Cameron:
Yeah, so a lot of the contracts are net 30 or net 60 and they advance you the money to go to fashion week. So all the model housing you stay for, they tax like crazy. So they add, so basically for a normal five, let's say the rent is 500 a month. They'll charge these girls 1,500 a month to stay with all these girls just because it's on in that tiny apartment Yeah, exactly exactly and it's it's pretty crazy These agencies make so much money off the girls because they're They really don't know that much about the industry going into it. And it's so glamorized and they're so excited to go that they'll just do whatever it takes to be there.

Adrian:
And a lot of them make it like, I mean, it's a percent, one percent of them make it. Yeah, definitely.

Cameron:
To become a supermodel is so difficult. But damn, they're all that. So difficult. They're all beautiful.

SPEAKER_00:
They're all that.

Cameron:
And they all love to party and they all love to do crazy shit. Yeah.

Adrian:
And so like, which kind of is insane because like, it's good for me and my friends.

Cameron:
We have fun with it. And I mean, that's super toxic.

Adrian:
We do meet most of them at the parties.

Cameron:
Yeah, we do. We do. And this is where our friendship is so great. Like we love each other. We can spend all day together and we can do nothing together. It's really genuine. But sometimes when we go out, Adrian always goes up to every single girl and then he's like, Oh, hey, by the way, this is my hot friend, Cameron. This is my good looking.

Adrian:
I do hype you up. Isn't he so handsome? So like, I'm a good wingman, you guys hit me up. Best wingman ever. Yeah, 100%. I'm on cameos. But no, I think these are all interesting things, especially because the fact at the end of the day is we genuinely love that. Everything we love, like it's like everything we love. But we have all these burning questions like, OK, like do the photographers try to like, you know, see you guys naked on the first photo shoot? What is like, what are these men that are after you. Sasha was talking to me recently, she's like, all the men that hit on me are all these old, and they're European usually.

Cameron:
I love that. I love that for her, but I think it's a fetish.

Adrian:
It's a fetish, right?

Cameron:
It's a weird fetish thing. I think it goes back to the The slavery days and all that kind of stuff. I think it's some weird type of fetish.

Adrian:
And they're all European. They're never American. Because they always do that.

Cameron:
They always sit on the tall skinny dark skin girl.

Adrian:
The hottest, but the hottest dark skin. Yeah, the hot. Dark, dark, dark, pitch black girl. That's like sexiest fuck. They always have them as a girlfriend.

Cameron:
And super skinny.

Adrian:
Super skinny.

Cameron:
They look anorexic. Yeah, definitely. That's sick.

Adrian:
I mean, not the girl, but like this fetishization of the girl.

Cameron:
Of the girl, yeah. It's definitely a weird mental thing that these guys are doing. But I'm not going to lie.

Adrian:
I would use it to my advantage.

Cameron:
Live your best life. Do whatever you're into.

Adrian:
Fly me out, girl.

Cameron:
We love that for him. We love that for him. Fly me out. I'm an anorexic model. Oh, yeah, we can definitely elaborate on that later We have so many different topics to talk about another thing that we want to talk about is a family Family is big family's huge family's a big one.

Adrian:
Yeah, and it's there's so many dynamics and things that go on in different families I mean I have a lot in my family, which I love my family to death. They're amazing. We're from a different country. But it's just culture, tradition, religion, and the assimilation process really have a hard sort of blending effect.

Cameron:
I'm sure there's many Muslim people that are struggling with the same things that you struggled with. I would love to hear about some of the things that you've been through.

Adrian:
Yeah.

Cameron:
You know, like I feel like it could be like a stepping path and like a pavement on a way for you to show people how to move forward. And like some of the things that you had to go through would help them feel more connected with you and being OK to be homosexual or lesbian or whatever, whatever sexual orientation they are.

Adrian:
I'm queer, Cameron. not lesbian or like Jesus Christ, every title except for the actual one. OK, OK. But please elaborate. I think being queer, I'm not the first queer, brown, black Muslim out there. There's like there's some that already exist. And, you know, they're pioneering their trajectory forward. But I think everyone has their own process and journey. And not everyone sort of is there at the same exact time. So for me, I found my peace just educating myself. And the key is, like, move at your own pace and do what's right for you. But don't feel dogmented by the society that you come from. That's the key. Like, just don't feel held back. Because the people, when you think that the people that are supposed to love you the most won't love you the same, then did they really love you unconditionally? Did they actually love you in fact? It comes with these like parameters, these chains. And just because you don't fall within this, it's like I'm less than. Yeah. So that's like a key thing to remember. It's like, don't let your don't let that devalue you. So, yeah. What about you, straight man? I love that for you. What about you, straight man? Thanks, I love that for you too.

Cameron:
What about me, family?

Adrian:
Yeah, family.

Cameron:
Oh yeah, family is definitely a complicated one, you know. For me, I didn't grow up having my real dad. I had a stepdad, you know. Really do resonate with the black community, but I grew up in all and then you're adopted right by my stepdad. Yeah, I still I'm still really close with my real mom and I just grew up in a white family. Yeah, you know, my brother's white because we have different dads My mom's white and my stepdad's white my real dad my real dad's black, but I grew up in it definitely in a in a white household and I really didn't start resonating with my black side until maybe when I was like 16 or 17.

Adrian:
But that's crazy because like for you like at least for me like I'm like what somewhat fair-complected but like my identity is just straight up Somali.

Cameron:
Please we're like the same skin color.

Adrian:
I know I'm like straight up no no no you're straight up half white.

Cameron:
I want our viewers to see your 23andMe. I can't wait to see this. I want to see what you actually are.

Adrian:
You know they just got hacked. You know they got hacked, right? Did they? Yeah, they just got hacked.

Cameron:
They're selling people's data. Well, they have my data for sure.

Adrian:
They're bioengineering something. You can't tell me otherwise.

Cameron:
I'm 50% African 40% German and 10% English. So somebody in my family cheated I don't know who but somebody but because my mom is blonde hair blue-eyed German So she and she found out she was 20% English What's the rest? German So somebody cheated. I'm 10% do the math. So somebody down the line cheated Because, you know, I grew up or my grandparents grew up in, you know, in World War II Germany. So, so, yeah, that that whole realm. So, yeah, it's it's crazy. And it's like it's crazy to go and see see my family tree and my history. And it's it's it's crazy, you know. But yeah, because somebody cheated for sure, though.

Adrian:
Yeah, but like you literally like don't know where you belong.

Cameron:
Yeah, I definitely don't. Because, you know, if when I went to a white school, like I never really fit in. I never really fit in. I'm black. When I went to diverse school, like I don't fit in with all my black friends because they're like for the same examples. what happened in New York. She's saying I can't say the N-word because I'm not black enough.

Adrian:
The crazy part is I've asked a few friends that are black and they were like, you know, we kind of don't disagree with her. Really? They kind of don't disagree there. And the girls I asked were all dark skin models.

Cameron:
Is it a girl thing? Because all my guy friends have no problem with it at all.

Adrian:
Is that a gender thing? Don't one of your guy friends have blue contacts and the other one's like Mexican? I'm talking about my black friends.

Cameron:
Oh, okay. Which ones? All my people. They have no problem with me saying that. What's their name?

Adrian:
What do you mean? What's their name? Uh, JJ, Eric, all my black friends. Okay, I'm gonna need to see their Instagrams if they actually exist, but no, we love that for you.

Cameron:
No, no, they just don't like doing the bougie shit that we do What is humble stuff chasing each other in a parking lot at a 49ers game?

Adrian:
Chasing each other. I saw your Instagram cam. You were at a tailback. Oh tailgating.

Cameron:
Yeah tailgating. Yeah, that's fun. That's definitely around Yeah, just doing races in the parking lot doing and doing crazy stuff getting drunk doing races in the parking lot going to football games Yeah, I mean first of all, I was not invited for the record.

Adrian:
I would have gone. Yeah, you're too bougie We don't want you. Why would you not want me to come?

Cameron:
I don't want your vest to get dirty, you know, so I can wear a different vest that wouldn't get dirty I mean. Okay, you can come this Sunday. We're going to Rams games. We're tailgating. You can do one of the races when you're drunk. You can race everybody. It'll be funny.

Adrian:
Yeah, I'll let you know. I think I have to check. Let me get back to you.

Cameron:
Anyways, to get back on topic, yeah, no, I definitely do have a lot of black friends, but like the male side, they never had a problem with me saying the N-word, but the female sides, I guess they just, they don't think it's okay for me to say, because I don't belong fully. I'm not black enough, but I'm not white enough. So I just, the only place I fit in is with mixed or light-skinned people. Yeah.

Adrian:
That's the hard part.

Cameron:
Because they all resonate because they all have the same issues.

Adrian:
Right. Yeah. But at least like for me, I mean, as toxic as where I come from is like I'm reinforced that like I'm like I'm full, fully part of this community and full of from this country, from this culture, from this religion. And it's reinforced. I don't have to like think about it no matter where I am, because my community reinforces it. My family reinforces it. Like all my parents look All my siblings look alike, my family is similar. So it's different when you're battling this coexisting narrative within yourself.

Cameron:
But it's hard, I can't even- Yeah, how does that play into for you in the corporate community?

Adrian:
Well, I mean, you gotta get it where you can. So I mean, I just play whatever I want.

Cameron:
Do you have to play a part in the corporate world or are you just yourself?

Adrian:
Um, you have to play a role in a sense, wherever. I mean, you have to, it's like any job, you know, you're not going to go in there fully just yourself. You have boundaries, parameters of like how you exist and how you kind of talk to them. But at the end of the day, it's like you got to use what you have. I mean, personally, I'm one of those toxic people that's like, Yeah girl, if they think you're black, say you're black. If they think you're Mexican, say you're Mexican. If they think you're Arab, my name's Ahmed, what's up? But I mean, it's not healthy because the world needs to change, but Who's like, are we at a place where we can fully change it? And that's the hard part. Because I just don't have time to really fight this struggle when I'm just trying to like exist and live my best life. And I have so many other things going on in my life.

Cameron:
But yeah, we're definitely going to be bringing on a bunch of different guests that are in the corporate sector, that are in the Forbes under 40. We're going to have media personalities. Yeah, we're going to have media personalities. We're definitely going to have models, supermodels. We're going to have supermodels because that's what I love. And he has a lot of best friend supermodels.

Adrian:
So do you. Yeah, I do.

Cameron:
I don't feel like they're your friends. Whatever, friends, whatever you wanna call it. Yeah, we're just gonna have so many different personalities on the show and it should be really fun.

Adrian:
I'm excited. Yeah, I'm really excited. And the fact is, we genuinely do love every facet of our friends and everything about them. We just have a lot of questions that are burning. And it's literally the questions that everyone wants to ask. I want to ask our model friends, did you ever fuck anybody to get to the top? Or to get that, to walk that catwalk. I want to ask, getting flown out on trips. I mean, I mean, one of our friends is in London and you know, she flew private.

Cameron:
So of course I saw, I saw the story.

Adrian:
I saw the story.

Cameron:
I know, I know she didn't do it herself. I know where she's at in her life. I know she didn't, I know they didn't fly her out. I know the company didn't fly her out. I know, I know it was somebody. And honestly, I love that for her. I respect it. If it were me, if it was a, if it was someone, if it was a lady flying me out, I would jump. Take me to the airport. Get me an Uber right now.

Adrian:
Right now. I'm on my way. I don't even need to pack. I'll buy clothes there.

Cameron:
Yeah, right? That's what the Amex is for, right?

Adrian:
Period. We love every aspect of that. I mean, it works. It's better internationally. It's like here in America.

Cameron:
It's like the gold. No, a lot of people don't take Amex around the world.

Adrian:
Yeah, because they don't really because the fees are so high.

Cameron:
Ghetto as hell, huh? Imagine having an unlimited Amex and you can't use it because they don't accept it.

Adrian:
Yeah, in Paris, I remember when I went with Jeannie like two years ago.

Cameron:
Oh, I thought you didn't go to Paris.

Adrian:
Oh, did I? I mean, I'm at Croatia. I'm at Croatia. I've never been to Croatia, wherever that is.

Cameron:
Oh, Croatia, Croatia. You know we have it on camera, right?

Adrian:
Where is that actually? I'm like on a map. Like, where is that? Is that like Turkey in the middle or something?

Cameron:
Yeah, it's close to Italy. It's on the eastern side of Italy.

Adrian:
Yeah. Is it part of Asia and Europe or? Croatia? Anyways, I can Google it.

Cameron:
Geography is not your thing, huh?

Adrian:
You know, I actually like it, though. OK, OK. I dated a Croatian once.

Cameron:
A man or a woman? Male, female, or what gender? He was pretty. Another thing is, how do you even go into gender? What do you say, a man, woman, or is that not right to say?

Adrian:
I kind of just caught myself. I think the key is like... You just date what you're comfortable with. For me, typically, I mean, dealing with feminine emotions is a lot. I just don't like it. Yeah. And I don't have time for it. Yeah. So I just typically date men. Yeah. And it's worked out pretty well for me. We love that for you. I mean, you almost got beat up by your ex. So how did that go for you?

Cameron:
Yeah, she was a crazy light skin, but it's fun. You know, she's crazy, but at the same time, I don't know what it is. I think it's the toxic cycle.

Adrian:
Is she the one that busted your lip or gave you the black eye?

Cameron:
Oh, no, no one ever put their hands on me, but they threatened to. They threatened to. They threatened to. And I said, honestly, I said, if you ever put your hands on me, I'll never talk to you again. She's taller than you, right? Yeah, she is taller than me.

Adrian:
Yeah, we love that for you, Cam. We love that for you.

Cameron:
So yeah, these are some of the topics that we want to talk about. I think it's really important to discuss these complexities within us and tune in for us. It's going to be really fun and we're going to laugh a lot, have a good time.

Adrian:
And honestly, I just want to ask the burning questions. It's the burning questions. How much did you buy your surrogacy and your baby for? Who did you sleep with to get that flight? Also, this gender thing is just insane to me, so I'm so excited to be asking these crazy questions that we're all thinking, because honestly, we love that for them. It's just like, help us understand. And everyone wants to know, honestly. Everyone we've talked to has said, this is- They don't understand. No one knows what's going on. Yeah, but no one wants to be offensive. I think race too.

Cameron:
I think race is going to be a big topic to discuss, even from the white perspective, right? How do you deal with that in a corporate environment when you come across an ethnic person, right? How do you act? What's the appropriate? For me and my experience in the past, no one knows how to act right. They always do some out-of-pocket shit that, and make it really awkward. I don't know why they always, anyways, but it's gonna be fun.

Adrian:
This is us literally asking the burning questions and it's everything we love for everyone, but help us understand. So Cameron and Adrian asking the burning questions. We love that for you. We love that for you.